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Grooming the young to become sex workers - the issue in UK has been avoided due to race issues but it looks like things are changing.
Anyone supporting the 'mother of harlots' could be at the point of finding themselves on the wrong side of history.
TELFORD: Pakistani Grooming Gangs: Institutions Again Put Racial Tensions Ahead of Child Protection - YouTube
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Vintage - he is talking about cult thinking. He opens up talking about communities being cults and getting in too deep with a 'community'.
Interesting he does not use the word 'society'.
He says cults (ie communities) are on a spectrum. You can have a 10 out of 10 for Jonestown and 4 out of 10 for a fitness guru.
So from what he is saying, all communities are cults but they can all be rated. So to my mind, he is suggesting searching out a 1 out of 10 cult.
Then he starts talking about the cult of personality and asks where Lloyd Evans sits on that scale. So, he has shifted away from 'community' (ie a collection of people) to the individual who takes the lead. Then he asks if you might still be in a bit of a cult.
THEN he goes onto cult thinking and quotes Salman Rushdie who I assume was speaking in relation to Islam. Then he talks about sacred words. I am guessing he means trigger words or something like Neuro Linguistic Programing. He also says about rituals and icons in his videos and says he might even start using them himself. Is he joking or not joking? He's got a couple of candles things behind him.
By using these sacred words (he says) religions make themselves mysterious and you get hooked.
A cult is hard to leave.
WT is hard to leave but exjw found Lloyd Evan's channel.
He says he really likes the Amanda Montel Theory - don't leave cults. You don't leave a cult you might be in, in fact you should be joining many cults.
He says this around the 3:30 mark.
Vintage he is not joking. He's saying all 'communities' (from book club to religion) are cults. He says to leave when a community does not acts fittingly of your cult move onto the next.
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He speaks well and makes some excellent points. But I disagree with him when he suggest joining multiple cults.
hello, i'm new here and have woken up to the real truth concerning the org.
i'm sort of fading away at the moment.... i need help with something, i used to as a child celebrate christmas and have always had amazing memories of it (my husband hasn't as he was born into the org) but i gave it up when i learnt the "truth".
my interest was only in pleasing god and still is.
Birthdays - Jehovah made a massive thing of Noah's birthday. I mean MASSIVE. The exact day isn't mentioned but the turn point of Noah's age is important.
(Genesis 7:6) . . .And Noah was six hundred years old when the deluge of waters occurred on the earth. . .
(Genesis 7:11) . . .In the six hundredth year of Noah’s life, in the second month, on the seventeenth day of the month, on this day all the springs of the vast watery deep were broken open and the floodgates of the heavens were opened.
(Genesis 8:13) . . .Now in the six hundred and first year, in the first month, on the first day of the month, it came about that the waters had drained from off the earth; . . .
If to Our Father, even the very hairs of our head are all numbered, surely all the days of our life are carefully counted too. (Matthew 10:29-30)
On the matter of Christmas being different to birthdays, Christmas counts nothing. No one says 'oh on this day Jesus turned 2022'.
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There's a Chinese saying 'point deer, say horse'. What it means is "deliberate misrepresentation for ulterior purposes".
But what we have seen is is liars, point to liars and call them liars. You imagine the liar who spoke up first is not a liar.
Watchtower pointed at all other Christian denominations and said 'liars'. Watchtower claimed to be publishing the Truth, ie the genuine teachings of Jesus Christ. But they weren't. Many put their trust in Watchtower and did not imagine they would be like the people they were calling out. But they were, so some, losing faith/trust in the Watchtower, lost their faith in Jesus/the Truth.
Now apply that to the child abuse issue. Child abusers point to child abusers and call them child abusers. You imagine the child abuser who spoke up first is not a child abuser. But then you see, the accuser is as bad as the ones he/she is accusing. So you end up like Pontius Pilate saying, 'what is truth?' How is that attitude going to protect children? Or anyone for that matter. All Pilate could do was wash his hands.
But the wisdom of Jesus Christ's words stand - it is by their ACTIONS not their words that you identify people.
(Matthew 7:20) . . .Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those [men]. . .
Also (Matt 7:21-23) - get away from me you workers of lawlessnes.
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Thisismein1972 - even classrooms of children will game a teacher and the teacher does not know. A class is under tight control but a few know how each should respond to game the teacher. Maybe only one child knows how to do it and the others go along with it.
Same with a parent managing a child - the parent strives to find techniques that the child responds to. The child is oblivious to parent's tactics. This can be a good or bad thing depending on the motive and the desired end. Psychotherapists do the same and will carry out experiments to assess the effectiveness of techniques.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions - didn't we all go out on the ministry? With good intentions. Then finally we woke up and realised the GB had been gaming us all.
It is a very powerful thing - you try to tell a fully-in publisher they are being lied to by the GB. They will not accept it. Maybe eventually they accept it when something hits them personally. Or perhaps it is only by the grace of God that people wake up to Watchtower's tactics. And as you say these things go on in the political arena too.
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Thisismein1972 - I wonder if Lloyd is controlled opposition too. Alternatively maybe he doesn't realize he is controlled opposition but is anyway.
hello, i'm new here and have woken up to the real truth concerning the org.
i'm sort of fading away at the moment.... i need help with something, i used to as a child celebrate christmas and have always had amazing memories of it (my husband hasn't as he was born into the org) but i gave it up when i learnt the "truth".
my interest was only in pleasing god and still is.
I am happy not to have to decorate the house with hedge trimmings.
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The Watchtower is a publishing company. It is opposed both to the House of Israel and Christians. The fact that it poses as 'Jehovah's Witnesses' does not mean it has any right in God's eye to disfellowship Christians (as if the Christian is being cast off from God).
They can however chuck you out of their club as a 'lapsed' club-member. Like being a 'lapsed' patreon of some YouTube channel.
They may have procedures but I imagine they are more concerned about keeping the status quo and doing the least possible.
Lloydevan - Elders don't even know the Bible. The key issue for me was that I was telling them (as per Dan 1:1) that the 3rd year of Jehoiakim's rulership was the 3rd year of Jehoiakim's rulership. One elder said to me, "the prophet Daniel is not a channel Jehovah is using today."
Whoop dee doo. I just looked at him and he fell ashamed and mumbled himself away from his own stupid comment. In fairness to him, just before they scurried off to hold a judicial against me and throw me out, he shook my hand.
mine is bouzov castle in moravia.
built in the early 1300's.
it wasn't too fancy, kinda rough hewn.
Where are the leaks in the roof? How do I pay for repairs? Would the government like to take ownership of this pile back? Who is going to mow the lawn? How many wedding are booked this year? You just can't get the staff.
